[AdamBomber]

lesnar doesnt juice now(he doesnt need to anymore, the GH made him huge, as far as thick bones and more muscle fibers and you retain a percent of the muscle growth)

he surely used gh in college and hit the juice hard in the wwe, hell all the wrestlers need to, they work almost every day doing grueling wrestling

[Shrigs]

Originally Posted by j_satan_666

i know people get sick and hurt and they still compete. as you are in your game, but i've never of heard of a fighter doing this two times.
nov. just started and he already made up his mind he's not training. i feel like he doesn't love what he does, and i feel like he's not hungry to continue to prove himself. that was hard for me to put the continue before prove himself, but the prick did earn it.

If he didn't love what he does, then why would he even bother to fight in the first place? The guy doesn't NEED to fight. Maybe he just learned a lesson from Nog, and decided to not try and be a hero and fight while sick as fuck.

I drop my money on the UFC cards expecting the fighters to be as close to 100% as possible. I don't want to see some sick/injured guy fighting. It does neither him, nor his opponent any justice.

[j_satan_666]

Originally Posted by Shrigs

If he didn't love what he does, then why would he even bother to fight in the first place? The guy doesn't NEED to fight. Maybe he just learned a lesson from Nog, and decided to not try and be a hero and fight while sick as fuck.

I drop my money on the UFC cards expecting the fighters to be as close to 100% as possible. I don't want to see some sick/injured guy fighting. It does neither him, nor his opponent any justice.

wow, your right! i'm a huge fan now. thanks for showing me the light.

come on man, he doesn't need you as his lawyer. it's just a damn opinion and obviously in your eyes a dumb one. all i know is i don't care either way.

hell i'm biased as f_ck and can't stand brock but your free to like who you want. i'm not going to try to convince you other wise.

so you don't want fighters to fight sick or injured, but in the real world bud it happens. some of these guys don't make the checks brock makes and they don't have a choice.

[Shrigs]

Originally Posted by j_satan_666

wow, your right! i'm a huge fan now. thanks for showing me the light.

come on man, he doesn't need you as his lawyer. it's just a damn opinion and obviously in your eyes a dumb one. all i know is i don't care either way.

hell i'm biased as f_ck and can't stand brock but your free to like who you want. i'm not going to try to convince you other wise.

so you don't want fighters to fight sick or injured, but in the real world bud it happens. some of these guys don't make the checks brock makes and they don't have a choice.

I realize that guys often fight when not completely at 100%, but this is different. This is a title fight, and title fights are a bit bigger than your average run of the mill fight, correct? If not, then why do we even have titles in the first place? I understand that maybe a mid-level guy needs to fight to make his money (not that I agree with that) but like you said, that's the real world. I understand that not all of these guys are raking in huge amounts of money. But that's a hell of a lot different than a situation where a title is on the line, especially when the fight is only being pushed back by a few months. What do you expect him to do? Vacate his title? Come on, there's been plenty of times where a guy has been on the shelf for a longer period of time while having a title, and it hasn't been a big deal. Hell, when BJ went up to fight GSP, it was how long since he had defended his LW title?

I'm not "trying to be his lawyer", I'm just stating why I think it's a fairly dumb idea to suggest that a guy who clearly (and has said so in the past) doesn't actually need to fight to make a living doesn't have a "love" for the sport. The guy has made millions already, and is content to live life as just an average guy. He's said in interviews before that if he wasn't fighting, he would be a farmer for god's sake. It just so happens that he's gifted at beating people up, and enjoys doing so.

I'll admit I like Brock, because I've liked him since his WWE days. However, I just so happen to call it as it is, as I think most people here would attest to.

You're welcome to your own opinion, of course. I'd just recommend you do a bit of homework before you imply things like that. Atleast you admit you're bias though. Good for you, "bud"!

[j_satan_666]

Originally Posted by Shrigs

I realize that guys often fight when not completely at 100%, but this is different. This is a title fight, and title fights are a bit bigger than your average run of the mill fight, correct? If not, then why do we even have titles in the first place? I understand that maybe a mid-level guy needs to fight to make his money (not that I agree with that) but like you said, that's the real world. I understand that not all of these guys are raking in huge amounts of money. But that's a hell of a lot different than a situation where a title is on the line, especially when the fight is only being pushed back by a few months. What do you expect him to do? Vacate his title? Come on, there's been plenty of times where a guy has been on the shelf for a longer period of time while having a title, and it hasn't been a big deal. Hell, when BJ went up to fight GSP, it was how long since he had defended his LW title?

I'm not "trying to be his lawyer", I'm just stating why I think it's a fairly dumb idea to suggest that a guy who clearly (and has said so in the past) doesn't actually need to fight to make a living doesn't have a "love" for the sport. The guy has made millions already, and is content to live life as just an average guy. He's said in interviews before that if he wasn't fighting, he would be a farmer for god's sake. It just so happens that he's gifted at beating people up, and enjoys doing so.

I'll admit I like Brock, because I've liked him since his WWE days. However, I just so happen to call it as it is, as I think most people here would attest to.

You're welcome to your own opinion, of course. I'd just recommend you do a bit of homework before you imply things like that. Atleast you admit you're bias though. Good for you, "bud"!

you said wwe days
don't get me wrong shriggs i've seen your point from the start. i also see the other side of the coin as well. probably some where in the middle is the truth. i just can't stand the guy plain and simple, but i always watch his fights so he's doing something right.

[Shrigs]

Originally Posted by j_satan_666

you said wwe days
don't get me wrong shriggs i've seen your point from the start. i also see the other side of the coin as well. probably some where in the middle is the truth. i just can't stand the guy plain and simple, but i always watch his fights so he's doing something right.

So what? I used to like the WWE. Ohhh nooo!!! It got stale, and the MMA has replaced it for me.

And I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree

[paperchaser]

Originally Posted by Shrigs

I realize that guys often fight when not completely at 100%, but this is different. This is a title fight, and title fights are a bit bigger than your average run of the mill fight, correct? If not, then why do we even have titles in the first place? I understand that maybe a mid-level guy needs to fight to make his money (not that I agree with that) but like you said, that's the real world. I understand that not all of these guys are raking in huge amounts of money. But that's a hell of a lot different than a situation where a title is on the line, especially when the fight is only being pushed back by a few months. What do you expect him to do? Vacate his title? Come on, there's been plenty of times where a guy has been on the shelf for a longer period of time while having a title, and it hasn't been a big deal. Hell, when BJ went up to fight GSP, it was how long since he had defended his LW title?

I'm not "trying to be his lawyer", I'm just stating why I think it's a fairly dumb idea to suggest that a guy who clearly (and has said so in the past) doesn't actually need to fight to make a living doesn't have a "love" for the sport. The guy has made millions already, and is content to live life as just an average guy. He's said in interviews before that if he wasn't fighting, he would be a farmer for god's sake. It just so happens that he's gifted at beating people up, and enjoys doing so.

I'll admit I like Brock, because I've liked him since his WWE days. However, I just so happen to call it as it is, as I think most people here would attest to.

You're welcome to your own opinion, of course. I'd just recommend you do a bit of homework before you imply things like that. Atleast you admit you're bias though. Good for you, "bud"!

Very thorough post with excellent points.
I agree with everything you spoke.
The stuff he is saying is his conspiracy and you are given proven facts.
Everything you posted is commonly known.
It seems his not liking Brock is the real underlying issue.